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* Re: [Flent-users] [tohojo/flent] Observations on Flent output for "Coffee Shop Bloat Tests" (#183)
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@ 2019-09-15 12:36 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
  2019-09-15 15:53 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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That should all be fixable, at least for new tests. The summary output just prints data series in the order they are specified in the data file, so harder to re-sort old files...

On 15 September 2019 13:51:48 CEST, Rich Brown <notifications@github.com> wrote:
>Using Flent 1.9.9-git-2a08dd9:
>
>I have been looking hard at Flent results for Dave's tests for coffee
>shops [(my latest
>script.)](https://github.com/richb-hanover/coffee-shop-bloat-test) I
>have a few fussy observations about the Flent output for the tests:
>
>* I like how the rrul and rrul_be tests summarize average and sum as
>the last items in their section. My eye is drawn to the discontinuity
>in the labels and sees the sum (after all is - that's the only number
>people care about :-) at the bottom. In the tcp_nup and tcp_ndown
>tests, it occurs to me to place the average & sum at the bottom of
>those lists as well. 
>
>* I believe (but am guessing) that the rrul and rrul_be "TCP totals"
>row is the sum of the TCP download sum and the TCP upload sum. It
>occurs to me that statistic could be placed at the very bottom of the
>report instead of being "in the middle".
>
>* It would be helpful not to add a closing "." after the filename in
>the "Data file written to..." line. That makes it easier to select the
>file name for pasting into `flent --gui ...` command. Mistakenly
>copying the "." doesn't seem to hurt, but I perseverate about having
>that "." in the file name.
>
>As always, Flent is a great system for collecting and displaying
>reproducible data. Thanks.
>
>```
>bash-3.2$ sh coffee-shop-bloat-test.sh
>Testing from Richs-MBP-10337.lan to flent-fremont.bufferbloat.net
>Measuring baseline latency to 1.1.1.1...
>1.1.1.1 : xmt/rcv/%loss = 5/5/0%, min/avg/max = 14.6/15.9/16.7
>
>Started Flent 1.9.9-git-2a08dd9 using Python 3.7.3.
>Starting tcp_ndown test. Expected run time: 70 seconds.
>Data file written to
>./tcp_ndown-2019-09-15T065532.373197.Richs-MBP-10337_lan.flent.gz.
>
>Summary of tcp_ndown test run from 2019-09-15 10:55:32.373197
>  Title: 'Richs-MBP-10337.lan'
>
>                                   avg       median          # data pts
>Ping (ms) ICMP                 :       103.47       102.00 ms          
>   350
>Ping (ms) ICMP 1.1.1.1 (extra) :        27.10        26.25 ms          
>   350
>TCP download avg               :         1.48          N/A Mbits/s     
>   353
>TCP download sum               :         5.93          N/A Mbits/s     
>   353
>TCP download::1                :         1.56         1.51 Mbits/s     
>   353
>TCP download::2                :         1.53         1.49 Mbits/s     
>   353
>TCP download::3                :         1.42         1.42 Mbits/s     
>   353
>TCP download::4                :         1.42         1.42 Mbits/s     
>   353
>Started Flent 1.9.9-git-2a08dd9 using Python 3.7.3.
>Starting tcp_nup test. Expected run time: 70 seconds.
>Data file written to
>./tcp_nup-2019-09-15T065648.202997.Richs-MBP-10337_lan.flent.gz.
>
>Summary of tcp_nup test run from 2019-09-15 10:56:48.202997
>  Title: 'Richs-MBP-10337.lan'
>
>                                   avg       median          # data pts
>Ping (ms) ICMP                 :       103.12       101.00 ms          
>   350
>Ping (ms) ICMP 1.1.1.1 (extra) :        25.44        23.60 ms          
>   350
>TCP upload avg                 :         0.13          N/A Mbits/s     
>   354
>TCP upload sum                 :         0.52          N/A Mbits/s     
>   354
>TCP upload::1                  :         0.14         0.16 Mbits/s     
>   354
>TCP upload::2                  :         0.14         0.16 Mbits/s     
>   354
>TCP upload::3                  :         0.14         0.15 Mbits/s     
>   354
>TCP upload::4                  :         0.10         0.10 Mbits/s     
>   354
>Started Flent 1.9.9-git-2a08dd9 using Python 3.7.3.
>Starting rrul test. Expected run time: 70 seconds.
>Data file written to
>./rrul-2019-09-15T065804.053659.Richs-MBP-10337_lan.flent.gz.
>
>Summary of rrul test run from 2019-09-15 10:58:04.053659
>  Title: 'Richs-MBP-10337.lan'
>
>                                   avg       median          # data pts
>Ping (ms) ICMP                 :       106.25       105.00 ms          
>   350
>Ping (ms) ICMP 1.1.1.1 (extra) :        31.23        30.55 ms          
>   350
>Ping (ms) UDP BE               :         9.43       106.38 ms          
>   352
>Ping (ms) UDP BK               :         9.40       106.72 ms          
>   352
>Ping (ms) UDP EF               :         9.38       106.44 ms          
>   352
>Ping (ms) avg                  :         9.40          N/A ms          
>   352
>TCP download BE                :         1.52         1.55 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP download BK                :         1.52         1.52 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP download CS5               :         1.51         1.50 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP download EF                :         1.47         1.53 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP download avg               :         1.50          N/A Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP download sum               :         6.02          N/A Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP totals                     :         6.45          N/A Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload BE                  :         0.10         0.10 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload BK                  :         0.11         0.11 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload CS5                 :         0.11         0.10 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload EF                  :         0.11         0.11 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload avg                 :         0.11          N/A Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload sum                 :         0.43          N/A Mbits/s     
>   352
>Started Flent 1.9.9-git-2a08dd9 using Python 3.7.3.
>Starting rrul_be test. Expected run time: 70 seconds.
>Data file written to
>./rrul_be-2019-09-15T065924.850091.Richs-MBP-10337_lan.flent.gz.
>
>Summary of rrul_be test run from 2019-09-15 10:59:24.850091
>  Title: 'Richs-MBP-10337.lan'
>
>                                   avg       median          # data pts
>Ping (ms) ICMP                 :       106.67       106.00 ms          
>   350
>Ping (ms) ICMP 1.1.1.1 (extra) :        30.96        30.30 ms          
>   350
>Ping (ms) UDP BE1              :         9.47       106.33 ms          
>   352
>Ping (ms) UDP BE2              :         9.40       107.30 ms          
>   352
>Ping (ms) UDP BE3              :         9.26       104.88 ms          
>   352
>Ping (ms) avg                  :         9.38          N/A ms          
>   352
>TCP download BE                :         1.38         1.39 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP download BE2               :         1.61         1.67 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP download BE3               :         1.55         1.61 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP download BE4               :         1.50         1.56 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP download avg               :         1.51          N/A Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP download sum               :         6.04          N/A Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP totals                     :         6.48          N/A Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload BE                  :         0.11         0.11 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload BE2                 :         0.11         0.11 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload BE3                 :         0.11         0.11 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload BE4                 :         0.11         0.10 Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload avg                 :         0.11          N/A Mbits/s     
>   352
>TCP upload sum                 :         0.44          N/A Mbits/s     
>   352
>bash-3.2$
>```


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* Re: [Flent-users] [tohojo/flent] Observations on Flent output for "Coffee Shop Bloat Tests" (#183)
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  2019-09-15 12:36 ` [Flent-users] [tohojo/flent] Observations on Flent output for "Coffee Shop Bloat Tests" (#183) Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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Ah bugger, seems I was wrong and that the series are actually just being sorted
alphabetically. So guess I'll have to figure out a way to define a sorting order
that makes more sense...

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* Re: [Flent-users] [tohojo/flent] Observations on Flent output for "Coffee Shop Bloat Tests" (#183)
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  2019-09-15 12:36 ` [Flent-users] [tohojo/flent] Observations on Flent output for "Coffee Shop Bloat Tests" (#183) Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
  2019-09-15 15:53 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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Rich Brown <notifications@github.com> writes:

> I'm all for gnarly hacks... Is it possible to change the names to "TCP
> upload::avg" and "TCP upload::sum"? Or change the individual tests to
> "TCP upload-N" and the "TCP upload-avg" and "TCP upload-sum"?

Nah, that won't work. For one thing, it would break compatibility with
old data files (the names are also the keys used when finding the data
to plot).

Also, to fix the "totals" issue on RRUL we need to sort
non-alphabetically anyway. So I think specifying an arbitrary sort order
is really needed. I'll look into that...

-Toke


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* Re: [Flent-users] [tohojo/flent] Observations on Flent output for "Coffee Shop Bloat Tests" (#183)
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Rich Brown <notifications@github.com> writes:

>> Rich said:
>> ... You can also tell me to get a life :-)
>
> Really - I can live without this. This is the kind of request that
> might possibly be cool (perhaps), but is hardly critical. Given that
> it could take a bunch of time to implement,  I would counsel that you
> wait until you got more votes of support before implementing it.
> (Unless _you_ really want to see it, in which case, go ahead!)

Well, I didn't say anything about *when* I would look into it ;)

I do think it's worthwhile, though, and not *too* hard to do, so I guess
I'll just leave this issue around and fix it when time permits...


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