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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: "tohojo/flent"
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Cc: tohojo/flent <flent@noreply.github.com>,
	Comment <comment@noreply.github.com>,
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Subject: Re: [Flent-users] [tohojo/flent] packet loss stats (#106)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:14:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw4QU4f=mwGSCNio10eEAXAm=O2CrzCxSZ8aA1Ay2wqHNw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tohojo/flent/issues/106/345693455@github.com>


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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:21 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <
notifications@github.com> wrote:

> Pete Heist <notifications@github.com> writes:
>
> >> On Nov 20, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <
> notifications@github.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Pete Heist <notifications@github.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > G.711 can be simulated today with `-i 20ms -l 172 -fill rand
> >> > -fillall`. I do this test pretty often, and I think it would be a good
> >> > default voip test.
> >>
> >> The problem with this is that it also changes the sampling rate. I don't
> >> necessarily want to plot the latency every 20ms, so I'd have to
> >> compensate for that in the Flent plotter somehow. Also, a better way to
> >> deal with loss would be needed.
> >
> >
> > I wondered if/when this would come up… Why not plot the latency every
> > 20ms, too dense?
>
> For the current plot type (where data points are connected by lines),
> certainly. It would probably be possible to plot denser data sets by a
> point cloud type plot, but that would make denser data series harder to
> read.


Winstein plot of latency variance? It doesn't get denser, it gets darker.

Packet loss vs throughput?


> > I guess even if not, eventually at a low enough interval the round
> > trip and plotting intervals would need to be decoupled, no matter what
> > plot type is used.
>
> Yeah, exactly.
>
> > If we want to minimize flent changes, irtt could optionally produce a
> > `round_trip_snapshots` (name TBD) array in the json with elements
> > created at a specified interval (`-si duration` or similar) that would
> > summarize the data from multiple round trips. For each snapshot, there
> > would be no timestamps, but the start and end seqnos would be there
> > (if needed), mean delays and ipdv, counts (or percentages?) of lost,
> > lost_up or lost_down, etc. I’d need to spec this out, but would
> > something like this help?
>
> Hmm, seeing as we probably want to keep all the data points in the Flent
> data file anyway, I think we might as well do the sub-sampling in Flent.
> Just thinning the plots is a few lines of numpy code; just need to
> figure out a good place to apply it.
>
> Handling loss is another matter, but one that I need to deal with
> anyway. Right now I'm just throwing away lost data points entirely,
> which loses the lost_{up,down} information. Will fix that and also
> figure out the right way to indicate losses.
>

Groovy.


> -Toke
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-20 21:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <tohojo/flent/issues/106@github.com>
2017-09-26  9:41 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-09-26 18:35 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-10-10  9:08 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-10-15 17:18 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-10-16 15:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-10-31 11:12 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-10-31 12:02 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-16  9:57 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-16 12:15 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-16 12:17 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-16 12:48 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-16 13:07 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-16 13:18 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-16 14:47 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-16 18:09 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-16 18:11 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-17 14:58 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-18 13:04 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found] ` <tohojo/flent/issues/106/345442147@github.com>
2017-11-18 19:07   ` Dave Taht
2017-11-20 12:11 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-20 13:21 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-20 21:14   ` Dave Taht [this message]
2017-11-20 21:44     ` Dave Taht
2017-11-20 16:01 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-20 20:58 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-21 10:36 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-21 14:53 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-21 21:56 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-22  7:49 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-22 12:03 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-22 12:05 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-22 12:06 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-22 13:34 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-22 21:57 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found] ` <tohojo/flent/issues/106/332043470@github.com>
2017-11-26 16:49   ` Matthias Tafelmeier

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