From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EBF8855983 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 22:19:23 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com header.i=@github.com header.b=2dvztYM2 Received: from github.com (hubbernetes-node-c6248ee.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.202.78]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D77F8520221 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 13:19:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1622924361; bh=yMe7oNIFC2pmBn9RfpThV1+qAGR5cUddhk8mOoLrqpY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2dvztYM2pLJMGoab3vdHJXsfC3EW66dzcQWM5J1bfTynKwURjsFR4RMtkINA/YSBI qr39XluxmTeJtNbrRUrovGsoJ6WZvN4wg9vX8P/oZNulZPQARSqz4dnjF3Npa41gVj RYjXw02faQMJJodCYQfQToWrDUlWvg/Xe7Vivs28= Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2021 13:19:21 -0700 From: =?UTF-8?B?RGF2ZSBUw6RodA==?= To: tohojo/flent Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_60bbdc49d4c26_7f4fc6fc978e5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtaht X-GitHub-Recipient: flent-users X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: flent-users@flent.org Message-ID-Hash: 7634UCIAJIO3PBAWF4SJ5RHW2NRPSDLJ X-Message-ID-Hash: 7634UCIAJIO3PBAWF4SJ5RHW2NRPSDLJ X-MailFrom: noreply@github.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Subscribed X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.4 Reply-To: tohojo/flent Subject: [Flent-users] [tohojo/flent] seeing the max, rather than the average, on rrul is less distracting (#225) List-Id: Flent discussion list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: ----==_mimepart_60bbdc49d4c26_7f4fc6fc978e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Naive readers of a rrul plot tend to look at the average, when, especially when you are trying to describe the difference between a good plot of latency and jitter [a good sch_fq plot of latency and jitter](http://dallas.starlink.taht.net/virtio_nobql/rrul_-_evenroute_v3_server_fq.png) and [The Terrifying FQ_CODEL BQL BUG](http://dallas.starlink.taht.net/virtio_nobql/rrul_-_evenroute_v3_server_fq_codel.png) To a manager type that wants to pull you off onto doing some irrelevant study of something of far less import to the correct behavior of 10s of millions of machines and of the internet itself and threatens to fire you if you are not going to comply... would help. rrul_max perhaps? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/tohojo/flent/issues/225 ----==_mimepart_60bbdc49d4c26_7f4fc6fc978e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Naive readers of a rrul plot tend to look at the average, when, especially when you are trying to describe the difference between a good plot of latency and jitter

a good sch_fq plot of latency and jitter

and

The Terrifying FQ_CODEL BQL BUG

To a manager type that wants to pull you off onto doing some irrelevant study of something of far less import to the correct behavior of 10s of millions of machines and of the internet itself and threatens to fire you if you are not going to comply... would help. rrul_max perhaps?

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