From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-ed1-x530.google.com (mail-ed1-x530.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::530]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1844693BEA2 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2022 20:11:57 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20210112 header.b=YQe7849F Received: by mail-ed1-x530.google.com with SMTP id m12so4115157edc.12 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2022 11:11:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=70/FT7gM1Qw9hLkxUzcquPxohAtKXGHfHU9oo0hKPM0=; b=YQe7849FbhefFrTOEET0wbOGJRrUCUyv8dLLwmYKylPerT4cL7GNO3flwktgPb1lCj 3N+l2rjjl+fIbfMYWsfdY7+HXkSlucbmLOOCz/Lu6Z4rjImM4xE/hRMCtKMcsyx8iSMb sGFw5Yo3WjHri51cz+TA9HEUpWsb6x88SbFIXJoeZ6I8a2mnA/J4fD7r9cW/4mbV+d84 pkmEqqbZtJEQLVRHgueVbHE6/ceB+Cu3g807vCKuMuUaRiELosAWZynH0Dp03e/pO/ks RZEseBmaof/pdKpNFlfs/nZSc8WEyiCzFAMGS8v3jBP2FChlo3SWJ9YUy1QQRFcFU/48 IP9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=70/FT7gM1Qw9hLkxUzcquPxohAtKXGHfHU9oo0hKPM0=; b=ASKrP+SQQQSiTTHJLvt8S5T+rs67qGKvH1P5dftQcSKtZKb6O3xT3EADEc3iADn1Dj ZrdbTkmwf6MUG/2fH4nygdeEYj2MpGGJa34AW9Updxf8MvezUCv9Ua2jecq+pO7iI+Kg mVNnLTyhCx2GAnf+swjjxVGAX7FNdYF7dA3QzzPCtMdBfyrHEMVlOH4FsdQy7tsmgYx8 oLH19EkbIFXKG50rOpEJNIvRMkKVsr9oAQe0y6C8NagpURrRYAywal66+jvJ35/L6khT yoTiMKZKU+ghqmAjL0MzUQadyW7iORSQlU0YnkdTFwTU4nCo18g/y5foNH9cN33auqZa 5EOw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530tRof9aO+BrsHPXUsfUAAN+Hs5niu5q6PehD2xkgTMkhq86HqO GnYUYOmWezkJ0nYJA1HjTlC8IqFWZYUhSgVa5VTsh1Ma X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyikgq9Yiy72FzF+em8eU4i8QzrzN4vmvrqW4so7JW1kqOtz4+a6uzO2hVi6gw+khThboFYU09ihIm9n6qQvKo= X-Received: by 2002:a50:bac5:0:b0:416:4651:7782 with SMTP id x63-20020a50bac5000000b0041646517782mr896761ede.219.1646853116722; Wed, 09 Mar 2022 11:11:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:11:45 -0500 Message-ID: To: Nathan Owens , flent-users Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: L2ZX7PBXZ42THAYVQN2XXTMSRRDGGHUY X-Message-ID-Hash: L2ZX7PBXZ42THAYVQN2XXTMSRRDGGHUY X-MailFrom: dave.taht@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.5 Precedence: list Subject: [Flent-users] What other magic shims exist for pyqt? List-Id: Flent discussion list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: "ERROR: Unable to find a usable Qt version." On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 2:08 PM Nathan Owens wrote: > > Yea, I tried all that, and followed the directions to install on my mac f= reshly, no luck! > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:05 AM Dave Taht wrote: >> >> apt-get install python3-qtpy # there's also another qt relate shim lib >> for some oses >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:59 AM Nathan Owens wrote: >> > >> > These were run for 300s. Oddly both my linux machine and mac tell me "= ERROR: Unable to find a usable Qt version." when trying to run flent-gui. >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 8:45 AM Dave Taht wrote: >> >> >> >> flent-gui *.flent.gz >> >> >> >> also -l 300 for a longer test. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:24 AM Nathan Owens wrote= : >> >> > >> >> > Not sure how to make these into a pretty picture, but here ya go! >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 6:57 AM Dave Taht wrot= e: >> >> >> >> >> >> None of these web based tests run long enough to show the degradat= ion >> >> >> in starlink service that happens after a "speedtest" like interval= . I >> >> >> note that conceptually I don't have much problem with the idea of = an >> >> >> ISP throttling bandwidth for "hogs" after some interval, but I do = have >> >> >> a problem with that cost also being vastly increased delays whilst= the >> >> >> throttling happens. I talked to the attached plot in my recent tal= k >> >> >> here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTWViGcBlnm0&t=3D29m45s >> >> >> >> >> >> When you are dependent on realtime comms, and sharing a link with >> >> >> potentially many others, keeping queuing delays short no matter th= e >> >> >> bandwidth, in a warzone, seems important. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:24 AM Nathan Owens wro= te: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Here's mine when I'm not having any issues, pretty decent IMO: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=3D5d18f5f3-74= b8-4cad-b7bf-3f5230fb993a >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 6:32 AM Livingood, Jason wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When folks experience sub-par video conferencing over Starlink,= it'd be great to see working latency stats at that time - such as via the = easy test at https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =EF=BB=BFOn 2/23/22, 09:38, "Starlink on behalf of Dave Taht" <= starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of dave.taht@gmail.com> wr= ote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.tomevslin.com/2022= /02/starlinks-zoomready-rating-is-going-down.html__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TjZjoTCGYO= 2gkt9xYrGdFrivrejHIdNjVe0TtEsCuQfDJTyNNy4u3_5CxlN2sj8WTA26WA$ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> I tried to build a better future, a few times: >> >> >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wayforward.archive.org/= ?site=3Dhttps*3A*2F*2Fwww.icei.org__;JSUl!!CQl3mcHX2A!TjZjoTCGYO2gkt9xYrGdF= rivrejHIdNjVe0TtEsCuQfDJTyNNy4u3_5CxlN2sj-yqmwsLA$ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Starlink mailing list >> >> >> >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> >> >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bufferbloat.net/l= istinfo/starlink__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TjZjoTCGYO2gkt9xYrGdFrivrejHIdNjVe0TtEsCuQf= DJTyNNy4u3_5CxlN2sj_SP7yVhg$ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Starlink mailing list >> >> >> >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> >> >> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> I tried to build a better future, a few times: >> >> >> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org >> >> >> >> >> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> I tried to build a better future, a few times: >> >> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org >> >> >> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >> >> >> >> -- >> I tried to build a better future, a few times: >> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org >> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC